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Rabbi Matt Schneeweiss's avatar

Considering your disclaimer about the use of ChatGPT for translations (great move, btw, as long as you're using ChatGPT4, which is far more accurate than 3.5), I'd like to submit a small but important critique of a translation in this article. The sentence authored by R' Yona Reiss is:

מקרים כאלו כשא״א לשתות מטעם סכנה נראה שיש לקיים את הענין של חייב איניש לבסומי בפוריא בעיקר על ידי הנאת יינה של תורה ממש לבסם את עצמו בריח של דברי תורה

ChatGPT and/or you translated this as: "In such cases, when one cannot drink due to danger, it seems that the obligation of a person to become intoxicated on Purim can primarily be fulfilled through the enjoyment of Torah, literally becoming intoxicated with the fragrance of Torah teachings."

This is a(n unintentional) misrepresentation of R' Reiss's words. He did NOT write that a person can "fulfill the OBLIGATION of intoxication through learning Torah." Rather, he wrote that a person can fulfill the INYAN of the obligation of intoxication through learning Torah. Whether one translates "inyan" as "theme" or "spirit" or "idea" or in any other way, it should be made clear that this is different from fulfilling the actual halachic obligation of becoming intoxicated.

As a high school rebbi, I've seen many "pre-Purim anti-drinking assemblies" in which underage are told not to drink. I think this is a good idea. Likewise, I think it's a good idea to publicize the shitos of those who hold that there is no obligation to get drunk or that it's forbidden to get drunk. What gets me upset, though, is when a speaker misrepresents halacha itself. I've heard people say, in an unqualified manner, "There is absolutely no halacha which says that a person should get drunk on Purim." This is a falsehood. To claim that there are poskim who rule against intoxication is fine, but to claim that NOBODY holds that one should get drunk is a lie.

Likewise, if someone were to claim that learning Torah fulfills the IDEA of getting drunk on Purim, I can get on board with that. But to say that learning Torah fulfills the halachic OBLIGATION to get drunk on Purim is, in my view, an unwarranted and unprecedented innovation, reminiscent of those who think that using various forms of drugs is a fulfillment of "levasumei."

Additionally, R' Reiss wrote "שיש לקיים את הענין של חייב איניש לבסומי בפוריא בעיקר על ידי הנאת יינה של תורה" that "one can fulfill the inyan of the obligation to become intoxicated on Purim primarily through the enjoyment of the WINE of Torah." The word "wine" here is critical for his interpretation, but is missing in your translation.

I assume that these mistranslations were unintentional, but if it WAS intentional, I'd love to hear your thoughts!

(I have my own theory as to why we get drunk on Purim, which but that's a discussion for another time: https://youtu.be/_WX1eADzvHI)

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Micha Berger's avatar

Actually, the gemara -- and consequently this quote in the Shulchan Arukh -- say that one should drink until one cannot distinguish between "accursed is Haman" and "blessed is Mordechai". Which is a much more subtle distinction then losing the ability to know whether Haman or Mordechai is the hero.

For that matter, the conclusion of the gemara is the next bit, the story of Rav Zeira's temporary death, and his unwillingness to go to Rabba's home on next year's Purim se'udah. If it weren't for all the rishonim, I would have read the gemara as concluding AGAINST the statement by Rava that one is obligated to get drunk. But what can I do? Rava's ruling is quoted in the codes verbatim. The Rama gives a good way of doing both -- losing the ability to think and yet not risking sin. (Even lesser ones than murder. Actually, thinking about it, one could be risking minyan, if the alarm clock isn't set.)

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